Lifesupporter fonts in Linux

IR_Efrem · 07-12-2008, 02:12 AM

I know you work hard at making sure that your pages look as good as possible in both Firefox and IE duke.

If you were to ever consider such a thing, I would just like to point out that the font size and type do not work well with Linux (in Firefox).

I'm not certain what font and sizes that you use (perhaps you could tell me and I will see if there is an alternative font to download) and I could develop a fix of sorts, without having to change the settings to over-ride the defaults for this page. To me it is rather unbearable. I could post a screenshot if you like?

Duke · 07-12-2008, 02:27 AM

So little of our traffic comes from Linux users that I admit I don't even bother to worry about formatting for Linux users. Of course until tonight I had no idea that the same browsers would perform different on different OS' but I guess it's a no-brainer given that Mac also has it's issues.

It will definitely help if you can post a few screenshots so I can get a feel for exactly what it is your referring to. Is it just a font size issue or is there actual corruption such as special characters, improper cell spacing, etc.?

IR_Efrem · 07-12-2008, 03:50 AM

cel spacing and font smoothness are the biggest problem

the fonts are a tad bit on the small size but thats a non-issue if they are clear fonts

which is why I ask, what font are you using?

I want to develop a fix on my end and share what I have done. There might even be a fix available already, but I need to know what type of font is used.

Make sure to view the image at full size and look at all the text on the page.
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8...zzyfontot5.jpg

This is a definate problem with this particular font because when I force the site to use a different font, it's as clear as can be.

Duke · 07-12-2008, 12:07 PM

The cell spacing in your screenshot is the way it is; the structural movement is due to percentage based cells shrinking and stretching to conform to your textual content. The inconsistent cell spacing below the navbar and category/thread description is my own fault because I haven't finished editing the templates within this particular theme as of yet.

The font family for this particular theme is verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif and it's the same as the default theme that ships with vBulletin so there really should not be any issues.

Can this issue be solved by holding the Ctrl key down and rotating your center mouse button? Do you have the same font related issues on the main page: http://www.lifesupporters.com

Just out of curiosity I need to check some of your browser settings to see if maybe there is an issue there.

Tools/Options/Content/Fonts and Colors:

Tools/Options/Content/Fonts and Colors/Advanced:

IR_Efrem · 07-12-2008, 02:27 PM

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/2893/settingsdq0.jpg
Here's my advanced settings, this is pretty much default except the font size, which I increased from 11 to 12. It doesn't matter what I put in any of these fields, Lifesupporters font don't change until I check "allow pages to use their own"

I'll include afew more screen shots here. When in advanced settings, it's when the "allow pages to use their own fonts" option is checked that I get the odd cel spacing and rough fonts.

Here's another of the main Forum page.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2...umallowif5.jpg

and after I deselect "allow pages to use their own"
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5...eselectkf2.jpg

Please keep in mind that I do not have the same named fonts that you do. In advanced font settings I do not have arial or courier new for example. And no zooming in or out in Firefox doesn't help at all.

If I leave the afore mentioned option deselected other pages display oddly. Switch back and forth all the time is a bit of a pain, I can live with it though. This is just a "thing" when it all comes down to it I spose. I don't want to turn it into a huge issue or nothin heh

Duke · 07-12-2008, 05:29 PM

I wonder if the newsflash has an unclosed font tag or perhaps a cell with a missing >

You never did say whether or not you have the same issue with the main page.

If you do then it is indeed a problem at your end, if not it's likely an unclosed tag in this theme.

IR_Efrem · 07-12-2008, 06:53 PM

Sorry Duke,

Nope, the main page looks just fine. I was trying to remind myself to answer that question but I failed to... blergh......

I'll tell ya it's the first thing to go bud heh.. Huh what was I talking about?

Ugh the screenshots are ugly. Imageshack does something strange to the compression ....

Duke · 07-13-2008, 01:08 AM

NP IR, just trying to pinpoint possible issues. I personally think there is a font tag either missing or open in the newsflash module in the header. For the life of me I'm not 110% sure where I buried the code but I will turn it off to see if the culprit.

IR_Efrem · 07-13-2008, 01:26 AM

I feel ya, I went to edit some code on my page. All I wanted to do was add a link, then poof my brain shut off. It's the worse though, I know where all my code is located but I could figure out (for the life of me) where to add the link so it would show in the proper place. God I have serious brain adle sometimes.

Besides all that, if I were you, I wouldn't work to hard on this. It's not that big of an issue and it doesn't have a big impact on much at all.

Duke · 07-13-2008, 12:37 PM

The only thing I could think of that's causing the issue is the Newsflash cell to the right of the banner. I've completely removed the code for now (I didn't think commenting it out would be sufficient enough to test) so please let me know if the problem is fixed or if the issue remains.

Thanks.

IR_Efrem · 07-13-2008, 06:35 PM

yay, cel spacing is normal now. fonts are still a tad "off" but it makes it 100% easier to read now that they are spaced correctly

IR_Efrem · 07-13-2008, 06:52 PM

Still seems a bit odd though. Main page is crystal clear, and the fonts in the forum are funky.

Here I'll zoom way in and show ya what I'm seeing. It's almost like using some monospaced system font thats not a true type or some such thing. The edges of the fonts show jaggies n stuff.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6821/zoomrs2.jpg
I know this is zoomed way in, but I can see these jaggies at normal size as well, especially in the letters (y - w - z - t - p). Makes me wonder if it is a system font because it doesn't know what the font is. Though the main page looking just fine contradicts that... Bah I dunno.