No sex before marriage....

[Weiser]

So i'm talking with my friend jill that's coming down for my birthday...and we got on the topic of this guy she met who's 24, attractive and apparantly never kissed a girl. I thought he was a liar or gay, but apparently he's just really religious.


Now...what is with religion and pre-marital sex? I mean what happens if you finally find someone else with your views, you marry and then on your honeymoon he turns out to be a minute man or just horrible / tiny...what happens then? you're screwed!

Thoughts?

[Merika]

I know Paul used to have really deep feelings about that subject and thought it best to wait. Not sure if he still does. Random may also feel that way.

Bibilically speaking....it's not just the girl who makes the choice. It's the guy who loves/respects her enough not to ask.

May be considered old fashoined...I don't know. But I would think at the end of things....it would make a great marriage for the right reasons.

[darkangelism]

i think the point is to base the relationship on everythingbut sex...which is stupid because sex is important part of the relationship, now in your friend's case if she isnt as relgious that might cause an issue, regardless of whether she will wait for him or not. I dated a girl once who was a virgin by choice, she had man hating issues, and besides that and the fact that she only liked me dunk, i decided that i could never deal with somebody who wanted to wait(even though im a virgin)

[Vautrin]

Originally Posted by Weiser

what happens then? you're screwed!

That is exactly what is NOT going to happen.

It is more a form of population control than anything else, IMO. Of course if people don't believe in pre-marital sex, that is fine. With all kinds of birth-control available (and even a technique available which allows for intercourse for most of the time, without medicinal, hormonal protection, nor condoms), the only advantage might be the spiritual one. But you can just as easily argue that the advantage is non-existent. And some people don't even care about that aspect.

[Weiser]

DA - she's not dating him. She met him and told me about him.

[Merika]

Each person has a right to chose if or if not they want to have sex before marriage. I don't think any differently about a person either way.

Biblically speaking....having sex with someone is when the blood covenant is made/exchanged between two people....therefore consumating the marriage ritual. That's all I know. I do find it interesting that it was centuries later before people knew that there was a blood exchange during sex. I wonder how they knew it early on???

[Duke]

I respect anyone who decides to wait til marriage but refuse to date them

[Vautrin]

Originally Posted by Duke

I respect anyone who decides to wait til marriage but refuse to date them

Wait a couple of decades, Duke .

[Merika]

Nope....old geezers want sex too!

especially with easy access to the blue pill

[RandomSkater]

Biblically speaking, there's a few reasons for staying a virgin until being married.

According the the Bible, when two people have sex before marriage they were to be married.
"And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife." Exodus 22:16

If the two people are already married to someone else, and commit adultery, they're to be put to death.
"If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel." - Deut. 22:22

If a man raped a woman, only the man would be put to death.
"25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.
26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:
27For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her. " - Deut. 22:25-27

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Not only Does God command it, but when people go against it he judges them. Look at all the diseases going around and how they go around.
If God intended for people to have sex before marriage, would he allow this to happen?
Hebrews 13:4 says: "Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but *****mongers and adulterers God will judge."

Just because you use a cantraceptive may make it safer from getting a disease or pregnant, but it doesn't save you from the judgement of God.

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The act of intercourse was made by God for people to multiply and fill the earth, the hypothesis of evolution has skewed this and perverted what God has said.
Abortions are also way out of control, because God has been thrown out of every day life and thinking.
Whether or not the government law says abortion is murder, God does and says the punishments for it are VERY severe.
" 22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe."

That says that whatever the man does to the baby, so is done to him!

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Now, I'm not saying I'm perfect and, trust me, I've been in many situations that I GREATLY regret letting happen.
However, I'm very thankful that all is not lost.
God sent His son to the cross so that all in despair and sorrow will not die, but live forever.
Mathew 16:26 says: "For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?"

Is it really worth earthly pleasures for a moment rather than heavenly treasures forever?


-Jon

[Merika]

That was a wonderful post Random!! Thanks.

[Adonaicole]

I fully agree with waiting for marriage before sex. Of course I wasn't able to wait myself but I agree in theory. "The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak". I know it would have helped if I would have got married at a younger age, there was no way I could have waited until I was 32 when I got married.

[Weiser]

Good read Random. God must be real pissed at me.

Changing the subject a little bit here, God is supposed to be all forgiving, right? And if you believe that Jesus is his son and that through christ alone and asking him for forgiveness, you get into heaven right? Well...(that's what I'm told christians believe - my mom is a christian) what's with this punishment for pre marital sex if you end up believing all that?

[twinkle]

God, God GOD!!!

What's important is not what GOD feels ot THINKS, we don't KNOW what he feels or thinks, but our relationship with him. I hate "God" reasons.

I had sex for the first time when I was almost 20 and I did it only because the guy I was dating led me to believe he'd be leaving me otherwise - we were dating for 6 months already. I didn't want to do it because ... I knew he wasn't "the one". I was really hoping I was wrong, but then, I simply didn't want to lose him, even if he was not as special as I imagined 'the one" would be.

Hopefully everyone would be lucky enough to find that "special" one and make them to be the first, one and only in their life. But then it's so rare, so unique to just meet this person, that... whatever happened before does not matter. I mean the important thing, wheather we are waiting to have sex or not, is to keep searching and to be true to ourselves.

[Merika]

I don't like God reasons either.... and have been known to aviod them like the plague. I WILL say those decisions have come back to bite me later though. If I had to do it all again....I would've done it His way.

[Adonaicole]

I agree with Merika, hind sight is 20/20. I don't think that sexual immorality is a sin against God, it's a sin against yourself, stop hitting yours