Ancient Human remains

[sweetbilly]

I thought these were pretty neat and figured some people might like to see them. These are things you WON'T see in National Geographic magizine, i wonder why? Could it be they are hiding something? Who knows really. Maybe it has something to do with the money they make from publishing only what people want to see? Anyway, they are giant human remains found all over the world, from the middle east to Ohio and often in places they weren't supposed to exist.

http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/giant/giant.htm

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/giantsb.html

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/giants.htm

http://www.grisda.org/origins/02064.htm

http://solomonspalding.com/SRP/saga2/sagawt0a.htm

http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/G...scoveries.html

http://www.fulldisklosure.org/joomla...id=38&Itemid=9

[darkangelism]

bigfoot exists too...

and UFOs

and i didnt argue anything you said.

[Star]

this is one interesting thread!

I do believe there are "bigfoots" and deffinately believe in UFO's. we can't be the only planet that has life on it.

as for the giants, i believe that too. since the animals were larger, why not humans? we're animals too right?

interesting topic sweetbilly.

[Duke]

I don't even know what I believe in, maybe those photos are just the tip of the iceberg or maybe they were doctored and authenticated by some influential no gooders.

Do you ever have the feeling that you only know what big brother wants you to know?

[Star]

yep. the governement hides so much stuff from the rest of us it isn't funny. i remember watching a documentary on that awhile back. especially when it comes to aliens from outer space. I know i do believe that there is life on other planets. we can't live on those planets but that doesn't mean there isn't life there. they just wouldn't be human. that's my thoughts on the alien thing.

i must admit that the bigfoot in those photos looks fake but, i have seen some that didn't. it's hard for us to believe in something we can't see.

[Duke]

Anyone remember all the hype around crop circles as well and the fact that it was presumed, humanly impossible to create them?

[sweetbilly]

Duke i can't assure you of anything concerning the giants, but i do know for a fact that the pictures of dinosaur footprints along side human footprints are REAL and the human footprints are about 18 inches long!! The foot prints were discovered in Texas after they were unearthed in a pretty large flood. The footprints were made in Cretacous rock. This rock would be approximatly 65-190 million years old, according to the geological record and evolutionary science. So both prints existing phenocontemporaniously, at the same time, produces a significant delima and is supposed to be impossible as far as evolutionary science is concerned. Humans aren't supposed to have existed 65 million years ago, yet in this case we have both human and dinosaur footprints in the same river bed along side one another. Couldn't it be possible that the world and science as we know it could be wrong? That maybe someone is delibertly hiding this from you? This is not the only evidence against evolution just the tip of the iceberg.

By the way, National Geographic did an article on this amazing find a few years ago, however they failed utterly to report the human footprints next to the dinosaur foot prints, this was done purposly and delibertly. There were Dr's there that were trying to get this find documented by secular magazines but they were meet with opposition every step of the way. The Smithsonian Institution has been hiding things like this from the public for years, and there are people trying to force them to release this info to the public but they won't. I've been trying to enlighten people about things like this for years but i always meet with such distain and disapproval it's so hard to present my evidence for my side of the argument.

The gigantic femerbone in the pic isn't the only one in existance either, there are several more which have been found as well. You can doctor the photos but you can not doctor the bones themselves, they are real. It is possible to see one of them at the Glenrose Museaum in Texas, it's always on display there for anyone to see.

[Duke]

If you go to that end, is it possible that dinosaurs were Earths primary species and Humans were actually shipped here from somewhere else?

All I was trying to say originally is that science has taken us only so far and will continue to do so due to huge gaps in our understanding of Earths history.

For all I know, I may be Neo and plugged into the Matrix to be used as a 9-volt battery for some 00ber race of machines. At the end of the day, we really only know what we've been told and it's hardly ever presented in a manner that isn't glorified or distorted by someone’s views.

I guess what really brought it home for me was talking to a friend of mine about WWII. See, in school, I was taught to accept the Nazi regime as bad folk but was it them or was it the leaders only, or was it the distortion and perversion of facts based off of our own beliefs? I've always been horrified by what the Nazi's did to Jewish people but what is little known is the fact that Canada turned the Jews away as well as a few other "Allied Countries". What does that say about us now and our role in WWII? Were we saints, not as we've been glorified in our public school system I wager.

Anyway, I'm going way off track here. All I was trying to say with my original post is that the story we see is not always the full story.

[Star]

Originally Posted by Duke

Anyone remember all the hype around crop circles as well and the fact that it was presumed, humanly impossible to create them?

I remember that! i seen a documentary on some people trying to recreate it and couldn't.

are crop circles still happening today?

[sweetbilly]

If you go to that end, is it possible that dinosaurs were Earths primary species and Humans were actually shipped here from somewhere else?

Humm Interesting idea, some Christains believe that these giant people are decendants of people that came from somewhere other than earth. I remember a show on the discovery channel which showed ancient pictures of people drawn on walls in Egypt they were about ten feet tall and resembled these skeletons. In the same show there was a man that claimed he saw an alien spaceship land near his house in Israel and two giant men got out and walked around close to his house. This story would have prolly ended there except what ever was walking around left foot prints in the ground like the ones seen in those pictures, they figure those people had to be about 1300 pounds to leave impressions in the ground that deep. I believe in the whole alien thing but i don't subscribe to the little 3 foot people idea, i believe those story's are bull most of the time, i believe what ever may be out there may in fact be giant and very human like. The Bible says these people had sex with humans and produced an offspring God did not approve of and for the most part were killed in the flood, but a few of them survived the flood.

For all I know, I may be Neo and plugged into the Matrix to be used as a 9-volt battery for some 00ber race of machines. At the end of the day, we really only know what we've been told and it's hardly ever presented in a manner that isn't glorified or distorted by someone’s views.

I agree with this idea as well check out my other post about quantum physics. It's amazing how our understanding of the universe may be what we want it to be and may not exist at all. I'm sure you will understand what i mean if you watch the movie, we may actually be creating our own reality rather than being subjected to an already pre-existing reality. Lemme explain what i mean, everything in the universe in made up of atoms and yet these atoms when observed act differently, in a physical sence, when we watch them than they act when we aren't watching them. So what is reality, is it what we want to see or is it something we can not control or affect? I believe we control our reality, not the other way around.

I guess my whole point behind these posts is that our world is not what we have always assumed it was, evolution is too narrowminded to explain what we are seeing as science progresses and new discovery's are made. But what is really crazy is that as evolutionary ideas about the world fail creationist ideas become more and more plausible. The physical evidence we find always seems to confirm what the bible has already said about the past. It say's there were giants, and we found giants. It says there were dinosaurs and humans inhabiting the earth at the same time, we now have evidence to prove they did. The bible said we are the keepers of the garden made in Gods image, and now physics confirms that physical matter can be controlled by our thoughts and actions that specific thoughts and actions may be benifical and certain thoughts and actions have a negative effect on us and our sourroundings. Just think God spoke the world into existance and we have been created in his image, so do we have this same power can we control the physical world through our emotions and actions? Quantum physics say's YES we do, and we do it all the time and don't even know we are doing it.

Every time i see something in the world it is always in some form confirmed in the bible, if i don't see it in the bible it usually can be disproved by other evidence. What are the odds of this happening, it's got to be in the millions or even billions to 1. This world was created through design not by some galactic accident. Too far from the sun and you freeze, too close and you burn up. If the moon was farther out in space than it is we would get out of our orbit and everything on earth would die, too close and the moon would be sucked in by our gravity and collide with earth and we would all die. Without the O-zone and geomagnitism the earth would burn up. without the tides and we couldn't produce enough oxygen and again we would all die. One missing chemical in our DNA chain and no human could have ever existed, if we came out of primordial soup, which is nothing less than a bunch of chemicals. Where did the initial recipe come from to create humans or even the first single-celled organism? We always need genetic codes to produce DNA. This is a chicken or the egg scenario, it has no answer as far as evolution is concerned. If evolution didn't happen, which is only one of two reasonable explainations for the existance of the earth, how did the earth and everything else come into being? We only have two plausible answers for everything in existance, evolution or creation. However, evolution is being proven unrealistic everyday. Yet people are never aware of what the evidence really points to. I don't fault people for being ignorant of the facts but i do when they refuse to accept them, this is a biasis which i feel does not belong in our schools. Does anyone agree that it dosen't belong in our school system, or if you feel it does belong do you feel that we must include alternate more probable explanations?

You can tell this bugs me and bugs me alot, it's a conflict that i deal with everyday. I feel as though i am selling myself out for not fighting against these incredulas non-provable ideas of evolution and so forth and having to endorse them as some kind of fact when they aren't for the sake of my career. Can you imagine what would happen to me in the scientific community if i said i endorse Creationism and not evolution, i would never work in my field again. This is why the general public is kept in the dark about the evidence. I just want people to know the truth, about what has been found and how it affects them personally. That their world is MUCH bigger than they think it is, and that there is something out there which can change their lives if they could only be given the information they need to make an informed decision. It's ingorance, apathy and lies which are killing us, not the lack of available information. The info is there, it's just that we who know the truth just aren't being given the forum needed to elaborate on it or research it more. This is not true science, it's politically derived lies designed to keep you and the general public in the dark, and believe it or not this is hurting all of humanity. If we were able/allowed to research what we believe to be true by the evidence we have found i'll bet cures for cancer, AIDS and alot of other diseases could be found realitivly rapidly compared to researching lies which have no credible evidences. But yet we can't go that direction because how many Co's or governmental Orginazations are going to give grants to someone who says they believe in Creation, none. I have never in my whole life seen a community protect itself and distort what is happening than the so-called scientific community. It's shameful really.

Here's some more videos that are pretty neat.

http://www.allaboutscience.org/video...mics-video.htm

http://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/vi...tion-video.htm

http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/top.htm

[Merika]

I always thought the giants came from when the angels of satan came down and had sex with the women of earth thus producing 'giants in the land' which is why God had the flood during Noah's day. I believe that is exactly what the scriptures say.

[sweetbilly]

You are prolly right Merika, i just didn't want to say it that way i guess. I said humans i think, but that's not what i meant. :roll: Did i say something else? I may have been confused as to whether that was what the bible said exactly or not, that part is rather difficult to understand without guidence and no one's ever explaned it to me fully yet, and i didn't want to say something that might have been incorrect. I wonder if they may have come down in some type of craft, or how they actually got here? It would explain the whole alien scenerio, and other scriptures i can think of in Ezekiel as well.

I know some people believe Noah was about 8 feet tall. I know that the environment, oxygen, atomic rays penetrating the o-zone, and several other factors may have had something to do with humans being very large and living for hundreds of years as well as growing to extreme sizes, but i don't think Noah would have been that size and lived as long as he did due to genetics. I tend to believe the environment may have had more to do with it and still affects human growth, how long we live and the diseases we see today. If we ever find the Ark, or at least identify the real one, we'll know for sure how tall he was. We can prolly figure out how long his arm was from the cubit conversion, if it's larger than the average human size he would have prolly been very large, if the size of a cubit taken from the measurement of the boat is average then we would be able to determine his actual size. I would think that like today to build a boat that size he would have had to have had an accurate, exacting way to measure things like wood etc...

I know the bible said they had sex with human women ...that would prolly explain the genetic traits we see in 8 foot basketball players today

There is this guy, Ron Wyatt, he followed the exodus story out the bible exactly as it was written and he found thousands of Egyptian chariots, horse bones, oxen bones and human bones at the bottom of the Red Sea. The point of the crossing was a alluval fan which deposited so much sediment that the bottom of the ocean in that particular spot is only about three hundred feet deep. On either side of this land bridge the ocean is well over 1000 feet deep. The Saudi government has been trying to hide this area from the general public by fencing it off and placing a government building there. However, the reseachers found the Egyptian side of the ocean where King Soloman placed a pillar to commemorate the crossing. There was also a pillar placed on the Saudi side, but i think Wyatt he said the writting on the Saudi side was destroyed by someone, but i think he said the Egyptian one still has the writting on it. I personally think this is the greatest archeological find in history, maybe some day he'll get his due credit for it. Too bad Wyatts dead now.

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm
http://www.wyattmuseum.com/red-sea-crossing.htm

Wyatt also thinks he discovered where Noahs ark landed after the flood. However, i have heard that there could be several sites found that could also be the site of the landing, so i guess it's gonna take a while to figure out where the real site is, but i personally believe this is the actual ark site. I have no idea why or even how someone could have or would have carved crosses on rocks before Christ was born, it dosen't make any sence unless you were Noah. So maybe he really did discover the actual resting place of Noah's ark.

He also followed the scriptures to what is believed to be the real Mt Sinai, where Moses recieved the ten commandments from God. What i find really amazing about the Mt Sinai site is that the top of the mountain has been turned into Metamorphic rock!! It is impossible to form metamorphic rock above ground, it can't happen!!!! As a Geologist i know it takes thousands of degrees to melt a rock. This is what metamorphic rocks are, melted rocks. They are always found at the bottom of any gologic column, friction and pressure are what produce the heat to melt them. It is physically impossible to melt rocks above ground, and these rocks are only melted a few feet on either side of the mountain, the heat would have to be greater than a nuclear weapon!! You can't simply just start a fire and melt rocks, not any rocks. Looking at the pictures, the rocks which were melted are sandstones ....sandstones are only produced in aqueous or eolian environments (desert, water).

The only way these rocks could have melted would have been under a massive amount of sediment producing great heat, MILES of sediment, Or to have been volcanic in nature ...or produced in laboratory somewhere. In which case the rock would have exibited what we call regional metomorphism and granitic dikes, this is where extremely hot, usually magmatic rocks, would have made contact with the sourrounding rocks but only for a few inches to maybe a couple of feet from the magmatic intrusion. However, neither of these explanations are adiquate enough to explain what is going on in this case, and i see nothing to suggest otherwise. It's as though the top of the mountain was set on fire, JUST AS THE BIBLE SAID!!! 8O I mean, what this Wyatt guy found was a textbook description of a biblical event, what are the odds the bible could be this accurate about everything on earth? It's litterally impossible. Unless the bible is true and accurate.