Is the US racist? MOVED TO POLITICS - Page 2

Merika · 09-06-2005, 06:30 PM

The GOP has a great forum....but it always ends up boring when everyone has the same opinion. Maybe you would enjoy a more controversial site with various view points. If you wanted to link up with the GOP though...I can send you Mark Mehlman's email addy. He's the head of the Republican Party /GOP . He's a real nice guy too.

darkangelism · 09-06-2005, 06:39 PM

yeah im sure i will bring in some liberals to create controversy. It will just be a majority republican site.

http://www.dogsofliberty.com/e107

thats the current address, still under construction though

Merika · 09-06-2005, 07:43 PM

Well....get her up and running.....can't wait to join!

Mathewmurcia has got some great links you could use as discussion points. He knows alot about how the European eyes are viewing things and that's real valuable.

matthewmurcia · 09-07-2005, 03:10 AM

Thanks Merika!

DA, I would be honoured to join your forum when it gets up and running (as long as you can give me a 'I'm definitely not a republican' title or something

) More than happy to come along and stir up some anti-republican debate. I'm sure you can do a better job than the offiicial GOP forum by looking at Merika's description abouve:

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The GOP has a great forum....but it always ends up boring when everyone has the same opinion.

What was that expression you taught me the other week Meirka? LMAO I think. Hahahhahahahaha.

And Bush would be the incoherent monkey leading the repetitive discussions then?

darkangelism · 09-07-2005, 10:08 AM

yeah MM i have no problem with you joining. Probably should find a few more on your side, due to the fact that it is becoming the home site for my school's club, and there are some 50 members, you would be outnumbered.

Merika · 09-07-2005, 10:22 AM

HAHA DA...you are starting a conservative site in the middle of a NYC college. I'm a kinda thinking YOU GUYS will be the ones out numbered. You can handle it though.

I never care if someone has a different opinion. It only annoys me when the media gives out the wrong information. I was listening on the news this morning where people openly admitted they didn't want to leave New Orleans because they had so much drugs stashed on them from all the looting.

But yet...this won't be reported accurately. The media will paint a picture of these poor people who no one rescued or cared about. Then folks like MM will hear something similar in Spain and ofcourse base an opinion on the info available.

That's why it's important for people to come together and discuss stuff honestly.

darkangelism · 09-07-2005, 08:20 PM

Its more fun when nobody agrees. Today my prof told the class that Bush didnt respond to NO because they were black, and i had to restrain myself from saying something.

Merika · 09-07-2005, 11:36 PM

What is so dumb is that there are still other pockets, where the people are white, and no one has gotten to all of them either. They just found a trailor park in the swamp yesturday with a bunch of people there....and they weren't black.

It's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. I wonder why no one is asking why their BLACK Mayor didn't use local city buses and school buses to evacuate them after the weather bureau was screaming 2 days in advance to get those people out of there???????????????

Ayla · 09-12-2005, 02:27 AM

Frankly it rather pisses me off that they have made a race issue out of this. If anything, it's an issue about poverty.

Someone else already mentioned this but...If the city of New Orlean is like 70% black wouldn't it make sense then that most of the people in that city that were affected were black? Have they forgotten that there ARE a whites left behind? And hispanics? and other cultures too? No, lets all focus on the black community and give the NAACP some more air time to bitch and whine.

If they want to pitch a fit over something, they need to do it over the elderly and disabled that weren't provided assistance by the mayor and the power structure of the city (who is by the way primarily black). Let's talk about the fact that the people who didn't have the means to leave the city were given very few options. I saw on CNN and old lady who died in her wheelchair near a wall at the superdome...with a note pinned to herself. That never should have happened. There were elderly left in nursing homes that flooded and they drowned. That's a crime against humanity in my opinion.

It's awful and horrible, and the residents left behind were done a dis-service by thier city and state and federal government...BUT it has NOTHING to do with the color of their skin. President Bush didn't SEND that hurricane there just to wipe some blacks out. That's where they're acting like. No wait...that must be it...Bush controls the weather. Aha...now things are coming clear... OMG!

Merika · 09-13-2005, 09:18 PM

Agreed Ayla. The whole saga went on and on about 2% of the people affected by the hurricane....and they weren't even the ones who were the worst hit.

Man...there are people out there with nothing left of their home but SPLINTERS! The news barely mentions them. That's okay though...they will work together and rebuild....without pity and without killing, raping and looting one another. This is also a high black populas...but they aren't whining. They also have the advantage of knowing how to hunt, fish and camp out. Gotta love 'em!!!

If I had money...I'd give every penny to them.

Vautrin · 09-14-2005, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayla

Frankly it rather pisses me off that they have made a race issue out of this. If anything, it's an issue about poverty.

Could not agree more.

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No wait...that must be it...Bush controls the weather. Aha...now things are coming clear... OMG!

They probably watched David Letterman too much or something like that. A couple of years ago, he'd often made mention of "The President is controlling the weather." But seriously, it often happens that the leader is held responsible for the tragedies that happen to others too. Especially if they think the leader has the powers (of law) to have lessened the effects of the tragedy to much smaller proportions.

Merika · 09-14-2005, 10:12 PM

I'm not sure that I could actually blame anyone involved. A disaster that big ...is just that.....a big disaster. I've lived in a coastal area all my life....and it's a chance you take. Just like you take a chance if you live in Califormia on a fault line or in Colorado in a possible avalanche. Crap happens and people need to pick up the pieces and move on.

Whining and blaming makes everyone involved sound like a bunch of 5 year olds. It's a shame all that media and political energy isn't being spent on cleaning up the mess and rebuilding. They could ALL use putting in a good honest days work.

matthewmurcia · 09-15-2005, 01:49 AM

but at the same time, and I realise american culture and society is a bit different here, we live in societies and economied run by people, and the way people react and organise things can make that easier or harder, better or worse. In this case, it's made it worse. The politiicians at the top are the first people that don'r put in an honest day's work!

Vautrin · 09-15-2005, 02:44 AM

Have to agree MM. An office clerk in NYC is not responsible for the safety of people in New Orleans and Louisiana. However, the people who are responsible for the safety in these areas, are often in elected positions, and carry responsibility for the successes and failures of their policies and measures. Mayors are elected. Governors are elected. The President is elected. And these elected people choose or propose people to be put in certain functions too - with that they carry responsibility to put forward people who know what they are doing.

And considering that New Orleans itself is such an important city to the US, and a logical target for terrorists to attack, you wonder about the quality and preparedness of the US for another terrorist attack, or a natural disaster - which did not come out of thin air to strike suddenly.

Merika · 09-15-2005, 11:52 AM

Again, realizing the mass area being as big as the UK...all anyone outside is hearing about is one small area.

Here's a really long read....but if you want to hear it from someone who is actually in the middle of it.....instead of a media version...this is good honest information. I'll add the address and phone at the bottom.
PS: this is over a week old.

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---O.K. I'll make an attempt to tell you what's going on down here right now. It's hard to do for several reasons. First, because there is so much , it's hard to talk about. Let's try to focus on the positive. You're right to be sick about New Orleans. They've turned into a bunch of animals over there. The idiots are shooting at the people who are trying to help them???? I think for the most part it's due to the frustration caused by the lack of response by their State Government....I mean, an SOS call? Give me a break. Everybody is so focused on what's going on in the Superdome, the Mississippi story is going un-reported. It's one of the bright things that are happening here now. We are NOT leaving our people to wallow and starve in their own filth, and the cadavers of loved ones. Were finding the live ones and getting them north as fast a possible. Most of the hundreds showing up here have at least had a meal, and a bath.

Haley Barbour the Governor and his administration will come out as true heroes in this disaster once the total story is told. The differences between the Louisiana and Mississippi responses are truly startling. Haley and MEMA had already had Mississippi declared disaster areas TWO DAYS before Katrina hit......What does that mean? A lot.... It means we had a two day head start on recovery. It means we had pre-positioned response teams...FULLY EQUIPPED ! It mean