capital punishment

darkangelism · 03-01-2006, 12:37 AM

what do you think about the death penatlty? after hearing stories like weiser's cousin, i believe even more in it as a punishment.

Weiser · 03-01-2006, 12:54 AM

always believed in it. eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, now more so than ever.

twinkle · 03-01-2006, 04:22 AM

I don't know. I think killing someone is just too easy. I think they should live. God always finds a way to punish people, much better and more powerful that the society will ever think of.

Plus there are cases of mistrials, and there's nothing more horrible than killing an innocent person.

Star · 03-01-2006, 05:51 AM

I'm at odds with this topic. IN some cases, I feel that it should be practiced but in others, I don't.

I think people like ted bundy, paul bernardo, karla homolka should be put to death. There is so much evidence backing it up that there is no question that they're the guilty ones. they took lives so in turn, theirs should be ended IMO.

these kind of people might spend the rest of their lives behind bars (except for karla - that's unbelievable on its own) but they are in protected custody. what for? why should they get the priviledge of being protected from harm after they've killed people?

I think with today's forensics and DNA, mistakes would be extremely minimal.

What happened to weiser's cousin?

Luba · 03-01-2006, 08:27 AM

I believe if you take someone's life, you should give up your own; especially if the act is deliberate and intentional!

I know I'm hurting for Weiser and his family; you all have become like family to me! Though most of us haven't met, just by the power of a Computer we have become close.

Vautrin · 03-01-2006, 11:29 AM

Actually there is a case running in the Netherlands with the DNA being the cause of the whole controversy of innocence. I.E. if we had the death-penalty possibly the wrong person was sentenced to death, because of it.

Please don't assume that DNA is reducing mistakes to 0. Something similar was thought to have happened with fingerprints, but was also not the case.

And what if you execute an innocent? Is the state then a murderer, and should the state be tried, and sentenced? To death, in case of neglect (to come to the fore with information that might shed new light on the case)?

Asides from all the philosophical and moral concerns, there is a political one: members of minorities get more death-penalties for the same crime, than members of the majority.

If I recall correctly, Ted Bundy is executed in 1989.

TKDLady · 03-01-2006, 11:47 AM

Ted Bundy was executed so we are no longer footing the bill for his incarceration. As to executions, I believe in them. The person has the right to appeal numberous times and they don't get executed for years during which time the tax payers are paying for their keep. I hate that part. I believe they have the right to 1 maybe 2 appeals and then the death sentence should be carried out as soon as possible afterward. No more lounging with TVs, computers, going to school. They get treated too well in some cases. They are supposed to be in prison, not a day spa!!

To answer Star, Weiser's cousin was a hit and run victim and is in very critical condition. It is under the thread "So Angry".

Weiser · 03-01-2006, 01:15 PM

she wasn't a hit and run victim, it was premeditated attempted murder which turned into murder.

let me go into a bit more detail. those people who deserver capital punishment should be killed the exact same way as their victims. in this case, give me a van and i'll run his ass over. repeatedly.

Adonaicole · 03-01-2006, 02:01 PM

You know what capital punishment I object to? Capital punishment for innocent victims, especially children. Where is the outrage over that?

This is a true story. There was a man convicted of molesting and killing over 10 children. The court had mercy on him and gave him a life sentance. After several years in jail, he escaped and showed no mercy and killed over 10 innocent kids again. He was convicted and the court showed mercy and gave him a life sentance. After several years in jail, he escaped again and showed no mercy...killing over 10 kids again. Finally when they convicted him the third time they decided to give him the same mercy he showed his victims and he is no longer able to put innocent children to death.

I agree that in death penalty cases, the courts need to be absolutely certain of guilt or it should be a life sentance until all doubt is removed. I strongly believe that in the case of multiple murders, especially multiple murders of children, they should be denied a second chance to murder. Innocent children have a right to life too!

Vautrin · 03-01-2006, 02:14 PM

Just lock them away. Permanently.

Escaping once should be a novelty / rarity. But escaping a second time: the director of the prison should be tried. He is the one who is responsible, is he?

Samson · 03-01-2006, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vautrin

Just lock them away. Permanently.?

This is more cruel than a simple injection.

Duke · 03-01-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Weiser

always believed in it. eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, now more so than ever.

I agree with this but I'd prefer death in the manner of the victim. In other words, if you raped/beaten/killed, you should be raped/beaten/killed. I don't believe lethal injection is the ticket because it's too quick and the appeal process means that you live for many years prior to the act.

I believe as a criminal your rights should automatically be waived and you should be dealt with.

TKDLady · 03-01-2006, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Weiser

she wasn't a hit and run victim, it was premeditated attempted murder which turned into murder.

let me go into a bit more detail. those people who deserver capital punishment should be killed the exact same way as their victims. in this case, give me a van and i'll run his ass over. repeatedly.

I didn't mean to offend you. I was just trying to give Star some info figuring she would go to the thread and read the story. At the time I didn't know your cousin had died. I am sorry for your loss and the way it happened. I too would gladly get in the van with you and help you run his ass over repeatedly. I know a few people here that I would love to drown repeatedly for a friend of mine whose son was injured in that fashion as his "friends" watched.

TKDLady · 03-01-2006, 07:23 PM

To add to my first post in this thread, I believe that once the shadow of doubt is gone they should be taken out behind the courthouse and executed right then and there. When Florida used the electric chair we used to think the victims family should have the option of turning a knob that had a variable current so they could zap the person at different levels until they were satified and then they could crank it on up to max until the b****d was dead. I also am not opposed to doing to them what they did to their victims. What goes around comes around. A bit vindictive but I am tired of paying to keep these creeps alive so they and their slimy lawyers can find every possible loophole to get off.