Dancing for Dollars/ Split as per SH's Request

[Samson]

You know SH should start a little Q&A (T&A?) thread.

I'd be quite interested in her experiences as an "exotic dancer."

[Stone]

Feel free to ask away

[Samson]

OK, but before I get into specifics, how did you decide one day "Heather, you got what it takes girl. You need to be an exotic dancer!!!" What were the circumstances of this realization?

Bear in mind, I'm only curious, not judgemental (in fact, I think more women should be willing to entertain this way, and it should be a much less expensive, and easily accessable diversion for men).

[Samson]

I take it that while I may ask, you mightn't answer.

[Stone]

HAHA it doesn't take much! all you need is a set of TATA's and the nerve to get up there and do it Plus I am a VERY Good flirt and manipulator so I fuigured I should put my talents to work and take all mens money

[Merika]

Originally Posted by Stoneheather

HAHA it doesn't take much! all you need is a set of TATA's and the nerve to get up there and do it Plus I am a VERY Good flirt and manipulator so I fuigured I should put my talents to work and take all mens money

I think it would be great fun! If I was younger....I'd do it in a heartbeat! The money is also a plus.

[darkangelism]

i think i need to check out some clubs, see what im missing

[Samson]

i need to check out some clubs, see what im missing

Well, DA, although we've still got 344 days left in 2005, I doubt anyone will top this for "Understatement of the Year Award." :roll:

SH I'm happy to understand your perspective.

It will make any future visits to "Gentlemen's Clubs" much more enjoyable (although my facination with "TATAs" really isn't enough to justify the expenditure). I've always felt just a little saddened, imagining these poor girls, force into a job that they think may be degrading, only able to survive in such an environment under the influence of mind altering substances. It is a relief to know that the truth is, its just another job.

However, in addition to being slightly saddened, I've also felt mostly frustrated in that A. I either genuinely like a girl but cannot have more than a client relationship with her, or B. that my level of arousal is limited to whatever legal authority has set their limits.

Which leads to my next question: Do "exotic dancers" share either of these reasons for frustration?

BTW; Merika, please accept my apology for threadjacking.

[Merika]

SEE Samson.....I told you it was hard not to thread jack! HAHA!

I don't think it's demeaning in the least for a girl to be a dancer. She probably makes more money than most of the people in there. Once your kids get to a certain age....it wouldn't be an option....but other than that....it's better than working at Walmart or McDonalds.

I think more men should go in there looking to be entertained....not trying to find a relationship....because most of the dancers already have boyfriends or husbands. It's JUST a job......

[Merika]

Okay Stoneheather....the thread is split. I'll send you a PM as to what steps to take in the future.

[Stone]

Originally Posted by Samson

I've always felt just a little saddened, imagining these poor girls, force into a job that they think may be degrading, only able to survive in such an environment under the influence of mind altering substances.

Which leads to my next question: Do "exotic dancers" share either of these reasons for frustrations.

It is a little sad, I never did drugs when I worked there my drug days we're long over by then. I didn't think I was degrading myself so I didn't have issues with it. HOWEVER many girls feel they are degrading themselvs and have low self esteem. I also was single at the time, out of respect for ANY long term relationship I would not persue dancing if I was involved.

I never shared any frustrations you listed, it's just a job I didn't think of any "man" differently than I did another, unless they had more money then my personality got a WHOLE LOT NICER!!

I am still sightly involved in the business I do all the taxes for the girls, sometimes I am the " house mom" and I do the clubs bookwork. If I was ever struggling again and single I would go back for a little while.

[darkangelism]

lots of unreported income i bet with the taxes...cash based business can be great.


Sampson, i think the award was handed out too soon, i know i will say something that is more understated later....and im going in 15 days to the local club, even though the good ones are uptown.


SH i dont see you as being a person to tell somebody off if they were too annoying.

[Stone]

[quote="darkangelism"]


Sampson, i think the award was handed out too soon, i know i will say something that is more understated later....and im going in 15 days to the local club, even though the good ones are uptown.
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DA Don't bring much money or the girls will take it all!! I promise there pro's.

[Samson]

I never shared any frustrations you listed, it's just a job I didn't think of any "man" differently than I did another, unless they had more money then my personality got a WHOLE LOT NICER!!

This is somewhat extraordinary to me, but I've always underestimated the ability of most females to put on an act, a weakness I attribute to never having had a sister.

So you NEVER felt the slightest attraction to a "client?" Amazing......

Now I'm trying to sympathise, ...............imagining myself dressed in nothing but a thong, wiggling around in some strange woman's lap as Diana Ross sings "Its Raining Men,"....... occasionally bending over and winking seductively at her through my spread legs and, well...... ?...thong contents? ...............All the while watching her hands least they go a-roamin' and I lose my licence because some jealous undercover police Amazon wants me to herself in the back of her patrol car.

OK, now I believe you!

Did you not ever take pity on the eventual stray male, who seemed extraordinarily awkward around members of the opposite sex, not to mention those that were showing off "TATA's?" Or were these viewed as simply "easy pickings?" Well, I guess you've already answered this question.

What about your sex life: Did the job help, hurt, or make no difference?

[Stone]

Yes I took pity on a stray male once it was a big mistake LMAO I think you may know him as Greg!!

As for sex I guess it imporved my sex life alot, hearing that your beautiful and this and that all day really makes you feel sexy and it's a plus for your partner because they don't have to say ANYTHING!! and still get good loving :wink:

In the begining I was attracted to some guys when I danced for them then I came to the conclusion that the good looking guys were cocky and didn't want to spen there money. so I got smart and moved on to the OLD guys with LOTS of money and the guy's who we're nervos being in the club and just wanted to hang out with one girl all night.... $400.00 later the got me and went home alone :wink: :twisted: ( brutal maby but it was ajob)

[Samson]

the guy's who we're nervos being in the club and just wanted to hang out with one girl all night.... $400.00 later the got me and went home alone

This description comes closest to my experience, very picky about one girl, (always based on facial features) and hoping in vain she'd stick around more for me than my money...


EVENTUALLY though, I'd just have enough nerve to ask: What do I need to do to see you outside the club? Perhaps I'm too hideous, or my question to direct (or opaque), or maybe I've got some sort of legal authority aura, or I simply haven't asked enough times, but the answer has never been: "Oh I was hoping you'd finally ask! I've been getting so hot and horney rubbing up against you this past hour that I'll probably explode unless I drive you to the nearest motel: NOW LETS GO!!"

Do you know if this has ever happened? If not What would you suppose the most successful approach would be?

[Stone]

The only way THAT will happen is if you sit with one of the clubs hookers. ( and that is very possible) but honestly they don't have the best facial features. LOL :bellydancer:

[Samson]

I was asking for DA's benefit! Riiiiiiigght!

Anyway, yes prostitues are a bargain (compared to clubs) and some do have acceptable facial features, (as I've tried to convince DA several times).

You mean there's no way to meet for lunch, coffee whatever?

Then how'd you meet Greg in a club?

[Merika]

I think it's a miss-nomer that girls dancing in strip joints are prostitutes. Some may be,....only because the principal of a fool and his money are priceless.....but for some....are just doing a job. I'd be on the first group....I'd make a friggin FORTUNE....and be happy as sh*t!

[Stone]

[quote="Samson

Then how'd you meet Greg in a club?[/quote]

Greg was never "Lap Dance customer" he came in EVERY SINGLE DAY before my shift started and bought me a drink and we hung out, I fuigured hey free drinks I'm staying!!! then we became friends. He did that for 2 years and asked me out about once every 3 months. I always said no then he got a part time job as a bouncer at the club, he was like a bad rash that wouldn't go away!! Then one day I found him getting lap dances from another girl witch he had NEVER done with me and I got jellous and couldn't fuigure out why he was trying to piss me off so I thought if I just went out with him once he would leave me alone.. 3 years later he is still a bad rash! ( kidding)

[Samson]

TWO YEARS EVERY THREE MONTHS!!!

So persistance is the key?

[Stone]

With him it was so persistance will pay off or get a restraining order.. HAHA

[Samson]

Which brings up the next question: If you ever have a "fan" that you (or the bouncer) had to restrain, what happened?

[Stone]

I never danced for drunks or punks however if men touched after being warned not to they would be restrained and thrown out. bouncers usually went for the pressure points. I worked at high class gentlemens clubs not titty bars. ( there is a slight difference) most of our clients we're business men and travelers.

Autually now that I think of it Samson we often got a lot of teachers

[Samson]

No one knows and appreciates that learning is a lifelong experience more than teachers. I'd expect more would find the occasion to be in a Gentleman's Club no less such an opportunity than visiting a museum, opera, or any theatre.

But most of my experience was when I wasn't teaching, but traveling on business.

I found that touching me (rather than letting me touch) always encouraged me to give more or, should I say........... larger "donations," but this never was a tactic of yours?