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Old 07-04-2007, 01:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Victoria's Secret Refunds: Immigrants Need Not Apply - Consumerist


I want to see what others have to say about this prior to posting my own viewpoint.
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Old 07-04-2007, 06:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This is ludicrous. I can imagine buying substances that could be used for making bombs or explosives requires a full ID (no driver's license). Undoubtedly, a driver's license is more than enough. Dolts.

But the return of a bra? Any form of ID should be good enough. What is anyone going to do with a bra? Build a half-mile long catapult????

For my student travelling card, I had to bring either a passport or a driver's license. They would not accept my student ID or my old student travelling card as a proof of identity. Since when is a driver's license an ID in the first place? I could buy booze on a driver's license. What was the message again? Don't drink and drive? Well apparently you have to be able to drive, before you may purchase a drink.

I really doubt a driver's license contains any more data than a Permanent Residence ID. I expect it to be the opposite.
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't agree with the store and the workers should have been friendly. She had more than enough ID without her green card. If I were her I would go to the top of the Victoria's Secret management chain and complain there. It sounds like the people that work at this store have some issues with immigrants and if so, they shouldn't be working retail.
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Old 07-04-2007, 10:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes, this sounds much more like a hate crime or a racially motivated issue more than anything else.
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Default Re: Rights of immigrants

The part that she wrote was a letter to the VS headquarters so hopefully it does get addressed at a higher level.

When I first read the article I wasnt all that surprised, especially with the big immigration debate right now, I had a "well that stuff happens" attitude and that isnt reflective of the company as a whole. I mean I have been in situations where I had a difficult time, and I am a US citizen. My best friend had sent me the article and I assumed that she was taking up some cause because she had read the article, so I looked at it with some skepticism, then she said that she wrote it and that it had happened to her, which made me care a lot more about it. I still think that it is an isolated incident and that nothing will probably be done about it, as I have yet to find any law that says a green card has to be considered a legal form of ID.
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Old 07-04-2007, 12:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I still think that it is an isolated incident and that nothing will probably be done about it, as I have yet to find any law that says a green card has to be considered a legal form of ID.
But why should a driver's license be valid then? They are easy to forge.
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Old 07-04-2007, 06:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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it depends. in the UK they arent easy to forge. to get alcohol or even into a bar you have to show id, either a photographic passport or photographic provisional or full driving license. I do think what they did was bad. and i hope she gets some kind of an apology.
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Old 07-04-2007, 06:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
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But it is illegal to drink below a certain age. It makes sense that you try to enforce that law. I haven't heard of a country where returning a bra is illegal ... yet
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the green card is the hardest of all us ID to forge, it has holograms and all sorts of things that are hard to fake, much harder then drivers license or even passport.
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The people at that store just had a problem. Probably personal. No one needs that much ID to return a purchase. It is ridiculous. I don't care what store it is at.
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It is cases like that which make me think of the good old shotgun procedure.
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im actually shocked you need ID in the first place. you certainly dont need ID to buy or return goods in stores in the UK!
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yeah you shouldnt need ID to return anything if you have the receipt.
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If you don't need ID to buy it, you certainly don't need ID to return it. This is racism pure and simple so I hope the employees get fired and corporate gets their @ss sued.
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