John Edwards has an affair

[Fayebelle]

Aside from the obvious political hypocrisy- I truly feel for his wife. As though she hasn't been through enough!

What, so many people wondered, about his wife, Elizabeth? The woman who experienced both tragedy and success by his side, who campaigned relentlessly for him, and who's now battling incurable cancer? How was she doing? And if she had indeed forgiven him, should everyone else do the same?

Many offer empathy, support for Elizabeth Edwards - Yahoo! News

[Vautrin]

At least he was not campaigning on a family platform unlike the gaybashing Representative who made dubious moves, or the Family Friendly Adulterer.

[Fayebelle]

To hell he wasn't!!!


He used his wife's illness many times ("discreetly" of course) to garner sympathetic support!


Beastly!


Viva La Libertarians!!!!!!!!

[Scott]

Originally Posted by Vautrin

At least he was not campaigning on a family platform unlike the gaybashing Representative who made dubious moves, or the Family Friendly Adulterer.

I'm sorta glad I have no idea what this means.

[Luba]

I LOVE Elizabeth Edwards but NOW think her husband is a Scoundrel to do this to her!

[BridgieBridge]

Yes, it's very sad. That poor women does'nt deserve this.

[John]

Originally Posted by Fayebelle

To hell he wasn't!!!


He used his wife's illness many times ("discreetly" of course) to garner sympathetic support!


Beastly!


Viva La Libertarians!!!!!!!!

I agree. He certainly did use his wifes illness to present himself as a supportive dedicated husband whose sense of family solidarity was more important then his professional ambitions. He even said as much when he announced her illness to the world. "My loving wifes welfare comes first and foremost " He denied the allegations of his infidelity in true Clinton fashion during his campaign.

He is the snake in the grass many of us assessed him to be and that has nothing to do with his political affiliation. It speaks to his basic character as a man.

When he's needed most he.................. It shows you exactly what we would have gotten from him.

[Vautrin]

Originally Posted by John Sullivan

I agree. He certainly did use his wifes illness to present himself as a supportive dedicated husband whose sense of family solidarity was more important then his professional ambitions.

Yes, but all candidates for political office do so these days. In that Edwards is no different from say the people I referred to in an earlier post.

What are your chances of getting elected in say Louisiana, if you are a homosexual Republican? Much lower than when you would have been if you were heterosexual. And it does not even have to mean a change of stance on any single issue.

The point is, the public is so obsessed with whether or not the candidate is confirming to the Christian standard (with the exception of states like Utah, and to a lesser extent New York, I would imagine). Saying anything different will simply cost the candidate votes.

I don't expect politicians to be dramatically below the 50% adultery rate, but at least I expect the decency that your vote is consistent with your own behavior. And that has been lacking in the conservative "family" oriented circles. I think Larry Craig is the most obvious example of that. But there have been a lot of others (excuse me if memory does not serve; I am in the Netherlands, so I have not memorised all the scandals of the past 10-15 years).

I am not a big fan of Edwards though.

[Fayebelle]

If Cookie Cutter Politicians are the goal- I would really hope that they could at least choose some shape other than Hypocrite to conform to.

[Scott]

Originally Posted by Fayebelle

If Cookie Cutter Politicians are the goal- I would really hope that they could at least choose some shape other than Hypocrite to conform to.

"some other shape?"

Frankly, I prefer "Hypocrite" to "Incompetent Boob" or "Fanatically Insane."

These cookies get burnt edges.

[Fayebelle]

I want "Honest" Is that so much to ask?!?!

[Scott]

Originally Posted by Fayebelle

I want "Honest" Is that so much to ask?!?!

Oh, how 'bout "Walks on Water" while you're at it?

[Fayebelle]

I'm willing to compromise

[Scott]

Originally Posted by Fayebelle

I want "Honest" Is that so much to ask?!?!

Have you ever been around anyone that was completely honest?

[John]

Originally Posted by Vautrin

Yes, but all candidates for political office do so these days. In that Edwards is no different from say the people I referred to in an earlier post.

No not all politicians do this these days just as not all people do these things these days.

We have the right to hold out for the highest quality person we can get. It's not an obsession.

The problem is, each time one of these so called pillars of society get caught with their pants down, many people dismiss it and make apologies for immoral behavior just like you have. Then we lower our expectations saying things like well it's a private matter that has nothing to do with their ability to do the job.

Nothing could be further from the truth in my opinion. A persons character and integrity dictates how he does his job and effects all of his decisions not only off the job but on.

[Fayebelle]

Not to mention I still think that society should be able to look to our leaders as role models.


When did the idea of being President stop being such a lofty goal?

[Vautrin]

Originally Posted by John Sullivan

No not all politicians do this these days just as not all people do these things these days.

And how many would that be out of the 640 or so elected federal Representatives and Senators? I was talking about using the wife / husband as a PR gimmick, not about adultery. Big difference.
Most of these that don't, don't because they are unmarried, or going through a messy divorce, so they can't really use the wife / husband to their advantage as that is a non-existent entity or outright political suicide.

We have the right to hold out for the highest quality person we can get. It's not an obsession.

Yes, but I fail to see why marital pretense (PR) is more important than say policy proposals. Oh wait, that would actuallly hold the official accountible for failing to do their job, as evidenced by incosistent voting records. We need a diversion: let's bring on the Mrs.!

Originally Posted by Fayebelle

ot to mention I still think that society should be able to look to our leaders as role models.


When did the idea of being President stop being such a lofty goal?

Since it has become a bought function. Same with House of Representatives and the Senate. Just check how many non-millionaires are in them. The Reps are not representative at all.

[Luba]

I watched as John Edwards was interviewed on "CBS Sunday Morning" and he said he made a Mistake. He denied that he is the father of his 'lover's' child. It seems Elizabeth Edwards is the only person really standing behind him these days.

[Fayebelle]

Originally Posted by Luba

It seems Elizabeth Edwards is the only person really standing behind him these days.

She's a classy lady.

[Luba]

Originally Posted by Fayebelle

She's a classy lady.

I agree! As Jay Leno asked Hugh Grant; "What were you thinking?"; same question applies to John Edwards. I think sometimes the Presidential Race goes to their heads and they think they can do anything.

[Fayebelle]

Gotta say though- I hope she's beating him with a designer bag behind closed doors

[Luba]

Originally Posted by Fayebelle

Gotta say though- I hope she's beating him with a designer bag behind closed doors

How can he even look into the eyes of that Great Lady? She is even preparing what needs to be done when she passes away so it's easier on everyone else. I think she is truly Amazing!

[Fayebelle]

Perhaps that is exactly what makes it possible for her to keep things in perspective as to what is and is not worth sweating over.


Her conscious is clear. Why add more worries to a troubled brow?

[Luba]

Originally Posted by Fayebelle

Perhaps that is exactly what makes it possible for her to keep things in perspective as to what is and is not worth sweating over.


Her conscious is clear. Why add more worries to a troubled brow?

That's so true, Faye!

[Scott]

People don't like the Truth.

This is why we do not have honest politicians.


George Washington was probably the most honest guy that was ever President. He HATED it.