Global Warming

[Luba]

People also plant trees in memory of their loved ones who have passed on; I think that's beautiful, too!

[VachelVace]

Originally Posted by Luba

Hey, Vachel, I thought I was your favorite person!

However, I don't want to detract from the seriousness of this topic!

no i like duck cause he is related to you

[VachelVace]

Originally Posted by Dwoing

true

but dwoing reember when the sun burt right throught our sunscreen
that was scarry

[IR_Efrem]

I am done commenting on this topic. Not because I cannot argue, but I refuse to argue with some types of people. Unless you decide to answer my post without attacking anyone. I've never made a single claim, besides that man is doing some kind of harm, I only posed a question.

[Luba]

Originally Posted by VachelVace

no i like duck cause he is related to you

Vachel, has anyone told you what a Sweetheart you are? I think you are!

Also, I think it's GREAT that you brought up this Topic and have all these opinions and solutions to try to help with our Global Warming problem. You're a VERY smart young lady!

I'm also glad that your generation is taking this very, very seriously and are doing something about it! Getting us more mature people on the road to a safer and healthier environment for you and the generations to come.

[Mondo]

I'm really quite convinced about global warming. I've read the science behind it but more importantly I've seen it in two very different parts of the world.

When I was a kid we used to get Winter in the south of the UK. Now we don't we get more rain. It used to snow 2 or 3 feet regularly over the last couple of winter months 20 years ago. Now, we get rain and have done for the last 10 years if not more.

I also got to see a global warming project in person when I went to the Himalayas. They showed us statistics and pictures of the glaciers on the mountains over the years and then when we saw them they had shrunk, some of them by kilometers up into the highest peaks. Then you see the flooding in the valleys and plains below the mountians where they can't handle the ever increasing water as it all melts away.

Its happening and what makes me sad is people in denial.

Originally Posted by darkangelism

no i dont believe they do, but im not being a hypocrite like most environmentalists and driving a big car and polluting like crazy

Thats a huge generalisation but its not just about the car you drive, its about what products you buy and use and how those products are made. Its shocking just how many products you can buy that are by products of the oil industry. Personally I know a couple of environmentalists who work for the local council and they don't drive at all.

Originally Posted by darkangelism

In addition im fairly sure my carbon footprint is smaller then everyone else on here.

Do you own a car or use public transport? Do you strive to buy products which have either recycled or sustainable packaging? Do you buy as much locally produced products as you can? Do you make sure the products you buy that are not locally sourced are from a sustainable and enviromentally sound source? Do you recycle all your plastic, aluminium, paper/cardboard and glass? Are all your light bulbs energy savers? Do you only turn on lights in rooms your in? Do you turn off all appliances when they are not in use (putting them on standby still uses energy)? Do you avoid using heating in your house? Is your house insulated? Are all your windows double glazed? Do you avoid by products of the oil industry? Do you use as little water as possible?

Think again about how bit your carbon foot print is and how much rubbish your creating. If your doing all that stuff then great, your doing your bit but from the sound of it I doubt you are. The problem people think there doing there bit but actually are not at all.

Originally Posted by darkangelism

And no polluting probably isnt good but its been happening for thousands of years this isnt some modern thing where humans pollute.

Yes, it is a modern thing. Even 300 years ago the human population was a fraction of what it is now and before the industrial revolution there was very little actual pollution on the size and scale that would harm the atmosphere. Coal and oil burning power stations and factories didn't exsist until 300 years ago. All industrialisation prior to that was extremely small scale hence the industrial revolution.

It wasn't until recently the dangers of CFC's were discovered and subsequently banned which is what caused the current hole in the ozone layer which is a different problem to what C02 is causing.

It wasn't until in the 1800's that large scale industrial complexes were setup. The US was hardly even populated 300 years ago and now with China is the worlds no.1 polluter. This has all come about very very recently. It wasn't until the 1920's that the US ramped up its industrial power to what it is today.

It wasn't until 40 or so years ago that the car became available to all and sundry and they pump out tons of C02 and until recently lead into the atmosphere.

Its all bad and more needs to be done to combat it. Being in denial is just screwing up your childrens and the generations that will inherit the earths future.

[VachelVace]

Originally Posted by Duke

On a side note I would recommend that everyone plant a tree at least once in your life and try to commemorate the event by having your close loved ones help.

Dwoing and I purchased a live Christmas Tree one year and after Christmas was over we were given permission to plant it in front of the apartment complex I live at. Today this tree is well over 8 feet tall and growing healthily.

I really can't tell you all how warm passing by that tree makes me. It has cemented a moment in time where 3 lives connected, mine, Dwoings and the tree. If you've never done anything like this before I strongly recommend it because it is a warm memory that you will never forget.

that is true but the trees they are cutting down have been here for centuries and i don't think are ansesters are really aprichiating the stuff were doing

[Dwoing]

Originally Posted by VachelVace

that is true but the trees they are cutting down have been here for centuries and i don't think are ancestors are really aprechiating the stuff were doing

True Ray, but the fact of it is, is even if people cut down the tree you made a difference for a short/long amount of time. Planting a tree and watching it grow is truly rewarding. A few of my friends and I wanted to leave something at Cliff Drive (my elementary school) before we left to high school. My friends and I decided it would be nice to plant a tree in the front of our school, so it would grow just like us, so we talked to our teacher and she talked to the principal and we planted a little tree in front of our school a month later. Not only did we do something for our school, we did something for the environment and for ourselves as well!

When we go back to that school or walk past it we will see the tree and it will remind us of our grade seven year!

[Weiser]

I planted a tree when I was in grade school for some environmental day thing or something.

I know global warming is "bad", but frankly, I really don't mind winter now.

[Mondo]

I do! It rains more than normal here! :P

[Dwoing]

exactly I love snow and we don't get enough of it here!!

[Weiser]

Ugh I grew up in Thunder Bay and one year we had snow banks that were higher than the roof - we couldn't shovel anymore and had to get someone to stand in the road to spot us when we had to drive somewhere because you couldn't see the road.

It was crazy and I hate snow now because that happened quite a bit.

[Luba]

Originally Posted by Dwoing

exactly I love snow and we don't get enough of it here!!

Remember when we built that fort and slide, Dwoing, and slid down it on the cardboard? Such a GREAT memory for me!