Is Rage replacing anger?

Luba · 06-30-2005, 08:56 AM

I don't know if I phrased that right, but is there now more rage than anger?
I went for my usual cup of coffee yesterday before work, and usually glance at the paper, which is probably a very foolish way to start the day what with all the terrible stuff going on.
I was sick to read that a visitor from another province got knifed by two men in their forties over some argument. There has been other knifing incidents, a drinking party, I recall.
Why is there such an escalation from anger to rage?
I'm not one for violence at all, but I remember the days when men settled fights with fists. I'm not agreeing that it's better to have a fistfight, but weapons?

Star · 06-30-2005, 09:57 AM

there is a lot more violence with weapons these days then there was in the past. I guess having a fair fist fight isn't enough anymore.

It might be because in our generation, there was a lot of neglect with us kids and some of us kids turned anger into rage? and it's like a never ending circle. those enraged adults are having kids and their kids are doing the same thing. it's crazy!

i do agree that it's got really bad. way too bad.

Vautrin · 06-30-2005, 11:20 AM

Also don't forget the influence of popular culture, and the effect it has on the mind of us and our children.

In the US, there are all kinds of obscenity restrictions concerning nudity for young audiences, but it is okay for young children to see (until the age of 16) on average 8000 people die in movies and such. There is a bit of hypocrisy in that.

Merika · 06-30-2005, 03:28 PM

Luba....I don't know if either the anger OR rage is 'more than'. What we DO have is a society who hasn't been taught to harness their emotions. They've been raised in a society which is far to permissive. I can remember going to church with my parents and being bored as H*LL....but you sat there, shut up and squirmed as little as possible. It teaches self control and not to act upon your first instinct.....something VERY LOST on most of the younger kids in society these days.

We would get a swift swat on the butt....now they consider it 'phychological' and put kids on drugs instead. Then....we end up with young adults with NO self control or will power.

It took several decades and 3 kids to see that my mother was correct in saying that kids won't learn discipline....unless they ARE disciplined.

Star · 06-30-2005, 03:35 PM

I totally agree. kids today have no discipline because parents can't legally discipline the kids. very well said.

Merika · 06-30-2005, 03:44 PM

The worst part is Star...that after society demanding parent's respond to their retarded liberal approach to child rearing....in the end....the only one left holding together the pieces is YOU the parent they originally felt needed THEIR lesson plan in how to raise a child.

I talked to my oldest son the other night while we were driving back from the airport. He was telling me everything he read on how to 'gently teach a child' with friggin treats and prizes. I laughed....told him it sounded real nice but doesn't work worth a crap. A parent doesn't have to be abusive in any way to enforce discipline. But....a child needs to know who is boss and who is in control. Better for the parent....better for the child. No one is confused.

Duke · 07-02-2005, 01:51 AM

I don't think it's rage thats the problem, it's the soft laws and laxed attitude of our criminal justice system. That and the bs that and that no one is no longer responsible for what they do anymore, now it's the fault of a song lyric, a movie or a video game.

Lets face it, we're all products of the stupid society that's all around us. We're being taught daily that it's ok to be a nitwit and monkey with other peoples stuff because nothing can happen to us.

Vautrin · 07-02-2005, 06:02 AM

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That and the bs that and that no one is no longer responsible for what they do anymore, now it's the fault of a song lyric, a movie or a video game.

But why are politicians hiding behind similar excuses? As "the safety system did not work" - DUH! No electronic system is 100% foolproof. They never take responsibility for their goof ups either. They all blame it on someone else, and in the end no one is held responsible. Yet they are still paid salaries that reflect responsibility.

Over here, there is a large chunk of thruth in the following: "if you are corrupt you are allowed to keep your seat in parliament. If not you are worked out of the parliament!" Sadly, I can't deny it. Does it take a genius then, to see why a lot of people don't have any trust in the parliamentary system, and its representatives?

And punishments for the most are severe, but misdirected. You seem to be punished heavier for using hard drugs, than for killing someone.

We are currently in the process of expelling 26,000 refugees. A decent procedure is not required by the Dutch state. So why does the Dutch State demand of its citizens to not break the law, if they are shunning that idea themselves?

The whole issue about illegal downloading of music for instance. Research has shown that pricing is the most important cause of that. Would you really expect a 15-year old to spend the equivalent of $30 on 10 songs? Especially if less than $2 is for the artist?

As for anger / rage? It happened 30 years ago too. But people accepted that. If you grabbed a woman's ass, you received a punch in the face. Simple as that.

Star · 07-02-2005, 06:57 AM

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If you grabbed a woman's ass, you received a punch in the face. Simple as that.

anyone grabbed my ass now and they'd get a punch in the face still. That's just unacceptable behaviour. Actually, women can sue for sexual harrassment for doing that on top of the punch in the face. LOL!

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Merika · 07-02-2005, 10:28 AM

Politicians seem to spend more time either impressing or playing games with each other....than caring about the people they pretend to represent. I think they are ALL buffoons! They've ruined the world and caused problems since the beginning of time. Just think how peaceful life would've been in the middle ages and beyond if some rich war lord or politician didn't always want more. The majority of the people just want to be left alone.

Maybe part of our newly shown Rage is that people just are tired of the whole thing.

Duke · 07-04-2005, 10:52 PM

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If you grabbed a woman's ass, you received a punch in the face. Simple as that.

anyone grabbed my ass now and they'd get a punch in the face still. That's just unacceptable behaviour. Actually, women can sue for sexual harrassment for doing that on top of the punch in the face. LOL!

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I'm not grabbing your ass, just trying to avoid the girth fatty

Duke · 07-04-2005, 10:55 PM

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That and the bs that and that no one is no longer responsible for what they do anymore, now it's the fault of a song lyric, a movie or a video game.

But why are politicians hiding behind similar excuses?

I meant everybody in my post, pretty much all of human nature seems to be migrating as far away from "love thy neighbor" as possible. Maybe we are headed for the apocolypse because the ball isn't wound as tight as it once was.

I wonder if the Earth is spinning faster or something because everyones going nuts, maybe we're all just dizzy.