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Old 08-17-2008, 09:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This afternoon while I was working, I received a call to pick up a customer at our local hospitals emergency room. When I saw the customers name on the computer screen I said to myself "Hey I know a guy by that same name. You don't suppose it could be him?"

The call further instructed me that the hospital itself would be paying for the ride by credit voucher. This is a common practice when a person is brought to the hospital with no money for any one of several reasons. It is also used by the hospital to transport indigent patients to a mental or rehab facility of some kind. These instructions told me to drop the customer off at a certain intersection.

When I arrived I asked the receptionist if she would have them bring my passenger out to the car when he was ready.

Sure enough a few minutes they brought him out. It was the friend I was thinking it might be. I was almost knocked over by his smell. He was obviously coming off a several days drinking binge and was a total mess.

This person had been a close friend of mine from Alcoholics anonymous and the last time I saw him he had 21 years of continuous sobriety. He had been instrumental in helping me get sober when I first got clean and sober.

As it turns out he had been drinking now for 4 or 5 months. In that time he had lost his job, been kicked out of his home and his wife had a restraining order against him, hence the reason that I was instructed to drop him off on the street. He had no home to go to.

Not wanting to see him just waste away on the street I began calling some friends in AA to see If I could find him some place to go. He refused my offer to take him somewhere and said he preferred to get drunk instead.

After talking to a couple of people I found out that others had been trying to help him also but to no avail. They had to ask him to leave their houses because he just wouldn't stop drinking.

I was forced to drop him off on the street give him a hug and wish him well. In addition I gave him my phone number (which I'm sure he already has) and told him that he could call if and when he quit drinking. I would be more then happy to help him under those conditions. Before he got out of the cab he asked for some money to hold him over. We all know what that money would go for so I had to refuse.

I'm still taken aback by all this because I am reminded just how fragile an alcoholics sobriety is even after 20 years of not drinking.

There but for the grace of God go I.

That is all.

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Hmm how about that. This was my 100th post

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Old 08-17-2008, 10:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ah, bummer.

I hate seeing people continue to self-destruct.
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Old 08-17-2008, 10:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I hope he figures it out. I have a friend like that too. I got a call from him a few months ago to pick him up at the county jail. After three years without a drop he started drinking and decided to go for a drive.
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Old 08-17-2008, 10:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I am sorry John. I hope your friend finds sobriety again soon.
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Old 08-17-2008, 11:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Wow John, thats a crazy, deep, real and sad story. I hope he finds his way. Thats really has to suck for you, being clean all this time knowing this person all along and were caught off guard to see his self destruction so many years later. It really is one day at a time, life that is.
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Old 08-18-2008, 06:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thank you so much my friends. It is hard to watch but I have seen it many times over the years. I've even had my own bout with relapse which lasted 7 years. It almost cost me my life.

I know it's a stark reality of the recovering persons life however it never gets easier to deal with.

It's hard to explain to people what possibly lies in store for them if their casual drug and alcohol use gets away from them.

They all say "I'll quit before it gets that bad" or "It won't happen to me because" (insert your own rationalization here)

Suddenly one day they wake up scratching their heads and find it's too late to quit yet too painful to continue.

If they are lucky enough to be among the 30% that manage to recover, then they must protect that sobriety everyday for the rest of their lives if they hope to avoid becoming like my friend.

Is it worth it?
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:06 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I'v wondered if I've TRIED to become an alcoholic, and failed....I like drinking, but I just am to much of a wimp to get drunk on a regular basis. I mean it hurts. It hurts me bad...ALL OVER.
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:50 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm still taken aback by all this because I am reminded just how fragile an alcoholics sobriety is even after 20 years of not drinking.

There but for the grace of God go I.

That is all.

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What a sad reminder of how precious the health of one's mind and body are. Sadly, we can't save people from themselves. Your friend made his tragic choice.

For some reason, this reminds me of a recent program I saw on TV regarding several obese people who eat 14,000 - 36,000 calories a day. It was clear that they were running away from life - they only felt comfort or calm when they were actually eating, with depression setting in whenever they stopped.

Something (or the accumulation of many) tipped him over the edge. It's sad that he didn't stay in a support network to help work through these things in a healthy way.
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Old 08-18-2008, 12:15 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I'v wondered if I've TRIED to become an alcoholic, and failed....I like drinking, but I just am to much of a wimp to get drunk on a regular basis. I mean it hurts. It hurts me bad...ALL OVER.
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I don't know Scott. Everyone has to answer those questions for themselves.

I do know this though It's not how much you drink or how often you drink that makes you alcoholic. It's how the alcohol effects you that is important. Some people hate getting drunk because of the hangovers and the embarrassment they feel over some of the decisions they made or the way they acted while under the influence. Yet they continue to drink anyway in spite of the consequences.

They may not feel the need to drink daily or have cravings to drink daily but for some reason they just keep drinking anyway. They enjoy it and don't see it as a problem. Some drunks go for weeks without drinking but when they do their life turns to **** for what ever time they do drink.

They all say, "I can quit anytime I want" but they just never do. Even though they hate the hangovers and getting into minor fender benders, the arguments with the spouse, the missed work from being occasionally hung over and a whole myriad of other social, financial and spiritual problems, they just keep drinking.

In other words Scott. If drinking causes problems of any kind in your life then your drinking is a problem.

If you're the kind of person who can have a few drinks and not have any adverse reactions to it then by all means have a ball.

I'm just not one of those people. When I drink my life breaks out into problems.

I do have a peace of mind though. I don't have to worry about me becoming an alcoholic or wondering if my drinking is a problem. I already have the answer to those questions. As long as I don't drink being alcoholic presents no problems for me.

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Old 08-18-2008, 05:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
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In other words Scott. If drinking causes problems of any kind in your life then your drinking is a problem.
Couldn't you say that about anything?


If having a wife causes problems of any kind in my life, then my wife is a problem?

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Old 08-18-2008, 06:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
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In other words Scott. If drinking causes problems of any kind in your life then your drinking is a problem.
Couldn't you say that about anything?


If having a wife causes problems of any kind in my life, then my wife is a problem?

You could say that if you like but....I've been married 31 years because I don't say things like that.....anymore.
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:42 PM   #12 (permalink)
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For some people potential for relapse is affected by the extent the problems which may have led to drinking in the first place have been overcome. Do you think your friend hadn't recovered to the degree you thought he had (even if he was dry)?
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