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Old 05-01-2006, 05:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by tkdlady
our language.
The US does not have an official language. Besides, I have the strange idea that NYC stockbroker language won't get you too far in Redneckville. Not to mention Redneck talk in L.A. But that is a different matter.

What is your language? Is it Truman Capote, Edgar Allen Poe, Ralph Waldo Emerson, or Thomas Paine? What to include and exclude?
We have had similar debates here.

Over here, before people outside of the EU can migrate here they have to:
a) learn the official language wherever they live. Does not matter if there is not a soul in the entire country that does speak Dutch. We have 3(!) official languages, namely Dutch, Frisian and Sign Language, in case anyone wondered. The last two would not qualify. Equality of the languages has not even been established here.
b) Get thoroughly immersed in Dutch culture. How you would do that, is a mystery to anyone involved.
c) take a citizen's test. They are crappy, and a large percentage of the native born Dutch fail the test anyway. Strange enough those "impurities" (that is the whole ideology driving this crap) are not to be kicked out of the country, or otherwise dealt with. Sad to say, I might see it happen in my lifetime.

A substantial minority in the Netherlands is not too fond of the royal family (they cost millions per year), so it is not clear to me why people who read the freaking royalty magazines should be more dutch than those who refuse to read all that crap. Even worse: why people should be granted Dutch citizenship, because they know who breeds with who.

Not to mention that the procedures are long and lengthy. Marriage does not cut it in a lot of cases either. First you may be checked for fake marriages (that applies to all countries outside of the EU/EER), and then of course your partner has to earn enough --> automatically excludes all students, because they have an income of EUR 0.00 + all the loans they take out with the government (at 6% interest per year)

The result? Immigration to the Netherlands almost came to a standstill, and the emigration from the Netherlands is booming business again. And it are not the people who are useless (from an economical or social POV) who are leaving.

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If we tried this in Mexico we would be imprisoned, tortured and possibly killed.
Tortured? Please inform Mister Bush of this, so he has grounds to wage war on Mexico. Oh, sorry, the administration does not care that much about torture. As long as Americans benefit from torture, and are not the ones technically torturting, it is alright. :roll: Sad to say, with full Dutch support.

The US is one of those countries, where giving birth to a child automatically means US citizenship. Why do you think Korean pregnant ladies come over to give birth to their children? Just that.

And as far as I know, being somewhere illegally is not unconstitutional. You are not allowed to do squat, but that is a different matter. It also does not mean you are outside of the law. Unless of course, it is perfectly legal to rape / murder / torture / mutilate illegal immigrants ...
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