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Originally Posted by alkali
Based on all your gathering of segments of Anti-Iraq war talking points I suspect you're an activist just waiting to spring on some unsuspecting kid. Reread what I said in the first post and come back on subject. You are well spoken enough to give the kid some insight to her question.
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Why would I need to jump on some kid about this? I'll let them make there own minds up. Im no activist or left wing liberal, Im just seeing things how they are. Your original statement is one of paranoia and is complete bizarre. Theres no terrorists on your streets, apart from 9/11 and the bomb in the car park what was the other major US terrorist attack on US soil? who did it?
Just cause I think the war was stupid doesn't make me an activist. If I was and activist I'd have come back with more points, more facts rather than a point of view, totally different. Do you think that the rest of the world are all activists? Cause most of the rest of the world doesn't agree with this war. Would you say the 2 million people who marched on westminster, London before the war were activists? No, there common people excercising there right to protest against what they feel is wrong. Sorry but THAT is democracy in action. Ignoring the world and going to war illegally anyway, that NOT democracy. Thats what the USSR did in the 50's and 60's.
Again I blame US media for branding those against the war activists, liberals etc. You've more than proved that point. Im not activist, I don't march about being a do gooder, I just feel very strongly about this topic.
What I refer to isn't double standards. I refered to WW2 in a different context. This Iraq was is nothing like WW2 and I told you why. Where is the double standard in that? It was totally different to Iraq, are reasons for being there is totally different. I didnt say you can't mention WW2 either, you put those words in my mouth. I said don't compare them.
BTW Northern Ireland was different, it started out based on religeon, and still partly is as much as national boundries. Iraq is allot different.
alkali, by your very statement about terrorism on the up, can you not actually see why its on the up, your making accomplishements in there world?!!? By that very statement you cause people to hate the USA. Can you not see that, can you not see why terrorism is on the up when you see pictures like this:
Thats someones house! Regardless of what the US thought was in there when it was bombed by them from the air, thats a house, in a street where people live. Imagine if someone came to your country and daily flew over your city and bombed your neighbours. What would you do? I know what I'd do.
You need to realise, in Iraq right now you have:
Terrorist - Fundimental nutbars who really need a beating
Freedom fighters - Someones house had been blown up and there pissed so there gonna take up arms and fight back
Religeous fundementalist - Guys who remember history and see this as another crusade...so there gonna take up arms
Civilians - They want to get on with life but who they gonna support. The White anglo saxon christians, or there own countrymen.
Please think about that.
Theres no point argueing this as your stuck in your point of view and can't see this from both sides.
Merika, come live in the UK and experiance Tony Blair, you'll hate him soon enough. He doesn't have facts, its been proven in 2 reports that he used unconfirmed MI6 information that MI6 even said was dubious. Even government scientists who worked in the Ministry of Defence said it was dubious, 1 spoke to the BBC about it and then was found dead in an aparent suicide but medical experts questioned that as it was far beyond a questionable death. That was Dr. David Kelly. Its not about cutting down the UK or US, its about disagreeing with your leaders, I don't cut down the US, I cut down the administration. There is a huge difference. If people can't see that then Im not going to bother talking about this any more and people can live in there world of false patriotism and ignorance (re The Georring quote).
I do read the BBC, I do read Jazeera, I do read Fox news, mainly cause its funny and tells the news in a very odd manner, but I read all sorts of things from mailing lists, forums, other news stations. I also have personal freinds in the US, France and Germany who send me things to read. I have a pretty wide range of news but theres one things above all else thats important, no matter who says what about a given story, it only happened once and theres a right and wrong way to tell that story.